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september 5, 2015 kl. 2:22 am #27103
LinusDeltagerI know there’s been a lot of discussions about this… but I could not find much here about tailor made suits from Teknodiver or Epsealon (ex Scorpion/Labrax). Any experiences? Thanks!
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september 5, 2015 kl. 11:18 pm #27110
Lars Folsberg RosenflindtDeltagerI have a teknodiver 3mm. It does not fit very well to be honest. I am not sure if the fault can be placed at the manufacturer or at the Kingfish shop in Copenhagen that took my measurements. All I know is that my Elios 7mm that I myself did the measurements for fits like a glove.
The Teknodiver suit was the same price as the Elios. Needles to say I am not choosing them again. -
september 6, 2015 kl. 1:06 am #27111
LinusDeltagerThanks Lars! I will try to order from Elios, though, it seems to be a very long and awkward process. Any suggestions for the configuration to speed up the communication with our Italian friends? I’m a shallow diver (max 5 m) and I get cold easily. I’m thinking of a 5 or 7 mm open cell Yamamoto 45. Don’t really know what other dimensions that also needs to be specified on top of the measurements? Thanks 🙂
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september 6, 2015 kl. 2:03 am #27112
Lars Folsberg RosenflindtDeltagerI think people are exaggerating a little bit when they talk about the process for ordering an Elios suit. It doesn´t have to take that long. The only thing you really need input from Elios on is in regards to the type of neoprene and the cost.
Wether you want your suit with smooth skin, nylon, 5/7mm or whatever, you can easily decide for yourself. I would strongly recommend a 7mm, since I am assuming you will be hunting in Denmark. If you get cold easily it would be pretty stupid to rule out the fall months when most of the fish are in prime condition by going for a suit that is too thin.I myself dive in a 7mm smoothskin suit made of Heiwa neoprene. It is warm and even though it is not yamamoto 45 I find it to be very elastic and comfortable. It cost me no more than 2000 dkr. Some people are scared of smoothskin, but I find it to be surprisingly durable. On top of that it is warmer than nylon (especially out of the water between dives, like on a boat) and if you get a cut or a bruise it is easliy repaired with glue.
Consider your preferences and write Elios an email where you specify what you want and ask them for some suggestions for a suit. It really is no more difficult than that B)
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september 6, 2015 kl. 3:28 am #27113
LinusDeltagerThanks again Lars, very helpful 🙂 I will contact Elios to start the process. I will go for a 7 mm open cell Yamamoto 45 with outer smoothskin. I’m not very good at keeping my breath so I do not rub myself against the bottom much. Found this link: http://www.freediving.biz/features/eliossub2.html with a lot of useful information. Don’t know if you need to know/specify the ‘quality of the neoprene’ or ‘density’ when ordering though.
Cheers! H
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september 6, 2015 kl. 10:52 am #27114
Michael PovlsenDeltagerEverything Lars says makes sense… except the part about smoothskin on the outside. You generally have to take much more care when donning the suit, and even more care when going into the water near/or from rocks/stones.
Go for the nylon outside, unless you mostly dive from a boat where you have lots of transport time with the suit on (that is where you get cold with nylon outside)
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september 6, 2015 kl. 11:40 am #27115
LinusDeltagerThanks Povlsen! I’m usually getting in and out of water from rocky places… so I will definitely consider your feedback. Two final questions, any issues that a 7 mm won’t follow your body as well as a 5mm? And should I skip the Long Johns? 🙂 Thanks.
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september 6, 2015 kl. 11:58 am #27116
Lars Folsberg RosenflindtDeltagerLong Johns or not depends on one other thing that also involves a “John”, and that is wether or not you decide to install a pisette in your suit. If you do, then go for the Long Johns if you want the extra warmth, just remember that you have to load yourself with even more weight to achieve the proper buoyancy.
If you dont want to install a pisette, then you have to go for the long waist so that you can easily take a piss without having to remove half your suit.And Povlsen is also not wrong in what he says about smoothskin. But I make plenty of shoredives too, and lots of diving along harbors with big sharp rocks. I have never had a cut. In fact, the only time my suit or any of those of my friends, have been damaged have been in careless accidents out of the water. One night back home from a dive in windy conditions my yard door slammed shut in the wind and hit my thigh. That resulted in a cut. A mate of mine got stuck on a spear when reaching for something in the boat. Same result. Another mate cut his on the teeth of gigantic cod when he wanted to clean it over the side of the boat. So yeah, they can break, but not (in my oppinion) from normal use in the water. The 7mm thickness probably plays a part in this too.
If you dont dive by boat at all, you are probably better off with a nylon suit. They are virtually indestructible, but you will find that they are not as elastic. Perhaps if you choose one of the really elastic neoprene types like yamamoto45, you can get the same elasticity and comfort with a nylon suit – I think JesperUV on this site has one.
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september 7, 2015 kl. 12:16 am #27124
SchnackDeltagerThe comfort in a suit, very much depend on the neoprene so go for a 100% neoprene suit, not omer or any other poor quality suits. If i had to buy a suit today I would go for the ægir suit from Ragnarok. There is nothing like having a suit that from time to time constantly bites under the arms or someplace else.
As a owner of a Omer 7mm suit I can honestly say that if you go for a “Danish” suit from Ragnarok you will get a lot more quality for your money.
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